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    @bing

    This will not end well for your country. It's great news for mine though.

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    PS, that border crossing is only about an hour from where I grew up (Fort Covington, NY). That entire border is a mess of farmland and wooded areas with tons of 4wheeler trails that crisscross the border.
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    Thousands of people (many of whom are here legally) are fleeing 'your' country because they fear their lives would be worse off here is good news to you? You're hopeless.

    Sounds like Canada is trying to deal with it as best they can, but good luck. Hopefully they don't get overcome by the pure magnitude of people trying to cross illegally.


    Oh and @JayS - Where's a good source for political news?
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    @Paulo I'm still hoping Trump eventually ships you back to Canada.

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    When I get there, where do you recommend I get political news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulo View Post
    Thousands of people (many of whom are here legally) are fleeing 'your' country because they fear their lives would be worse off here is good news to you? You're hopeless.
    it should be good news that non-contributors are leaving... good news for you. not good news for me.

    i understand that the overall situation is terrible but none of us are responsible for the conditions, we just have to deal with the consequences.

    i dont believe anyone is directing their frustrations about this and laying the blame on the individuals. i dont blame them at all... but the whole situation is fucked and not getting better. If i had to pick a side to be on i would pick the US side with all the illegals leaving instead of being on the Canadian side where they are all coming.

    The fact that Trudeau is encouraging people to come here is also not helping things get better for anyone. all of the media i see on it says that a significant number of these people will not be allowed to settle in Canada anyways. We should be setting the right expectation for people so that those that will not be able to stay dont come in the first place.
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    @bing Haven't read too much on it yet, but are the people mostly being detained? It sounded like they were being processed through Canada's normal refugee program.

    I don't think anyone is blaming the individuals either. It's a shitty situation being caused by the current Trump rhetoric on immigration and non-white people and now Canada has to deal with those consequences.

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    From the article above:

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    In most cases, once the migrants are in Canada they are released and can live freely while their claims for refugee status are processed, which can take years. Meanwhile, they are eligible for public assistance.
    Brenda Shanahan, the Liberal Party member of Parliament who represents the area, visited the site Monday. She is proud of her country for being willing to take in the dispossessed, she said, but there is no guarantee they will be able to stay in Canada.
    “It’s not a free ticket for refugee status, not at all,” Shanahan said.
    Opposition Conservative lawmaker Michelle Rempel said the Trudeau government lacks a plan to deal with the illegal crossings, even though a summer spike had been anticipated.
    “All that we have heard is that we are monitoring the situation,” she said. “The government needs to come up with a plan right away to deal with this.”
    It will further backlog a system in which some refugees are already waiting 11 years for hearings, Rempel said. Canadians will question the integrity of the immigration system if the “dangerous trend” of illegal crossings continues, she said.

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    According to this it sounds like they just get to go free and collect assistance while they wait around maybe 11 years for a hearing.


    Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

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    exactly, it's a big problem that i think it being minimized. if voters really know what was going on and the costs of these programs i am sure it would become an election issue next time around.

    it would be for me.
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    America is the best place to be in the world for Legal immigrants. The day I say that as a legal immigrant its fearful living here, is the day I become a leech with no contribution to society, family and myself. Then again I'm a citizen.

    Trump "immigration rhetoric". That is hilarious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulo View Post
    Thousands of people (many of whom are here legally) are fleeing 'your' country because they fear their lives would be worse off here is good news to you? You're hopeless.

    Sounds like Canada is trying to deal with it as best they can, but good luck. Hopefully they don't get overcome by the pure magnitude of people trying to cross illegally.


    Oh and @JayS - Where's a good source for political news?
    "here legally" is quite misleading... the majority of the people illegally crossing into Canada from the US are in the US illegally. They believe they'll be caught by immigration officials in the US and removed back to their native country. The "legally present" people you speak of, are generally here on a temporary visa, and as that visa is about to expire, they run to Canada. Their intentions were to just live in the US and overstay their visa... but now there is fear they will be caught, due to increased enforcement of immigration officials.
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    @snowracer101, That makes sense. I can't imagine too many actual residents busting out like that. In that comment I was more or less speaking to the conditions causing them to want to leave the US.

    What would that normal process look like as their visa expires? Would the US pay to send them back to their home country? Detain them? What if they came from a place like Syria and their visa expires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulo View Post
    @snowracer101, That makes sense. I can't imagine too many actual residents busting out like that. In that comment I was more or less speaking to the conditions causing them to want to leave the US.

    What would that normal process look like as their visa expires? Would the US pay to send them back to their home country? Detain them? What if they came from a place like Syria and their visa expires?
    It really depends on the situation... and what type of visa they were here on...and any criminal history since they've been here
    The gov't doesn't take kindly to visa overstays... they view it as "Hey, we were nice and let you in our country for whatever purpose it may be, and you completely broke our trust by disobeying our laws"

    you name it, and I've dealt with it... whether it was a K1 visa (a fiancee of a US citizen who is granted a visa to come to the US to get married to the citizen)..these are HEAVILY abused...

    Another highly abused visa is H1B and H2A temp workers.

    Again, it really depends on the situation... any alien present in the United States must be in possession of their immigration documents at all times. At any point, an alien can be detained by immigration officials until that official is satisfied that the alien is lawfully present in the US. It is a misdemeanor, under 8 USC 1304(e), for an alien to not possess these documents..which includes a fine and jail time. 99% of the time, discretion is used...we'll run them through our systems to ensure their visa or residency is valid and then send them on their way.

    If for any reason we contact an alien who has overstayed their visa, they are detained and set up for removal proceedings. From there, depending on their entry status (what visa they were issued) determines their rights.. for example, it is all but impossible for a crewman, who has overstayed his visa, to argue his case in front of a judge.

    Simply put, if an alien is found to be illegally present in the US, by an immigration officer, that alien will be arrested and charged with the applicable crime..which varies case by case..explained later.

    Another common mixup is the use IIRAIRAof the words "deported" "deportability" "inadmissible" "removal", the government is to blame in a large part because of the IIRAIRA act of 1996.

    I'll try to sum this up as easy as I can..

    An alien is deportable if he/she was lawfully admitted into the country and subsequently violated the conditions of his entry. Common examples: Alien is issued a K1 visa to marry his fiancee, a US citizen. He marries her and then applies for residency aka. Lawfully Admitted Permanent Resident (LAPR). After a year of living in NY, he is convicted of grand theft auto, and assault. He has committed two crimes involving moral turpitude (CIMT), he his now deportable. In this case, he will likely remain in the US unless he comes in contact with an immigration official who happens to run his criminal history. (this is why our POTUS is emphasizing local LE to work with federal imm. officials). The key to the word "deportable" is the fact that the deportable alien was at one time, lawfully admitted into the US. If the alien in this scenario was arrested by immigration, he would then be sent before an immigration judge, given a chance to plead his case..and likely be deported back to his native country.

    Now, let's look at inadmissibility. An alien is deemed inadmissible if that alien was never admitted into the US, or was admitted, but gained entry by fraud (fraudulent documents, etc.) If this alien is contacted by an Immigration official, and the imm. official determines the alien is in fact an alien, he official will request valid documentation (which the alien will not have), at this point, generally, the alien will admit that he is here illegally... if he does not, that is another crime (false claim to citizenship..which is nearly impossible to get a conviction of..btw). The alien will then be arrested and charged with 'alien present without admission' (8USC 1182). He will then be set up for removal proceedings..and be given the option of seeing a judge to plead his case and try to convince the judge to let him stay in the US..or he will waive his right to see a judge, and be removed from the US, back to his native country.

    With all that said, every single alien has the right to claim 'credible fear' of returning to their country, which 99% of them do. Credible fear does not mean they are afraid to return because there is no work, or there is gang violence... what is meant by credible fear is, the alien reasonably believes if he/she is returned to their country, they will be tortured or killed by their government because of their political/religious beliefs. Any alien claiming credible fear must state their claim to an asylum officer, and it is up to the asylum officer to make that decision.

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    @snowracer101, That makes sense. I can't imagine too many actual residents busting out like that. In that comment I was more or less speaking to the conditions causing them to want to leave the US.

    What would that normal process look like as their visa expires? Would the US pay to send them back to their home country? Detain them? What if they came from a place like Syria and their visa expires?
    Oh, another thing I will add.. there is no system in existence that shows if someone is 'legal' or 'illegal', it is up to the immigration agent to determine that. Also, there is no system that alerts immigration officials of visa overstays... anytime a visa overstay is detained by immigration officials, it is usually because they were arrested by local law enforcement, who then notify the feds.

    Yes, the US must pay to remove or deport aliens. Aliens know this too.. for instance, a field worker in New York, here on an H2A visa decides to overstay his visa by 2 months. He then turns himself in to immigration officials, and they fly him back, on the government dime, to his native country. it's quite comical.

    Oh, and one last thing, you cannot deport, or remove an alien to a country that doesn't exist. HUH?! Say a male from the USSR crosses the US/MEX border illegally in 1989. He is never caught, and lives in the US for 10 years. He then decides to murder his wife. He's arrested and does 20 years in prison, because he's here illegally, he is turned over to federal immigration authorities after he does his time in prison. Well, unfortunately, the USSR does not exist anymore...so he stays. This happens more times than most people could imagine.

    Hope this answers any questions.

    Oh, and one final thing... while the MSM shows Canada as this friendly, welcoming country to illegal aliens... they do NOT take kindly to people crossing into their country illegally.
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    So basically if your POTUS starts talking tough and these people flee to another country like Canada it's a good thing for your country and a bad thing for the country they're fleeing to. You know, what I said earlier before I was called "hopeless".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayS View Post
    So basically if your POTUS starts talking tough and these people flee to another country like Canada it's a good thing for your country and a bad thing for the country they're fleeing to. You know, what I said earlier before I was called "hopeless".
    Also, many of these people fleeing to Canada are Afgani military absconders. (we pay to house and train them in the US, and they go AWOL and hightail it to Canada to claim asylum).

    Imagine if all illegal aliens from the US ran to Canada? We have probably well over 30 million illegals in the US currently (please don't believe that 10 million BS number). Shit, Canada has a population of 35 million... if their population doubled in the matter of a couple years, all low skilled workers... their economy would collapse faster than the democratic party.
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    what i find interesting is that if you were to introduce 500,000 illegals into Canada the calculation for the nation's unemployment rate would probably stay the same for marketing purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bing View Post
    what i find interesting is that if you were to introduce 500,000 illegals into Canada the calculation for the nation's unemployment rate would probably stay the same for marketing purposes.
    It's crazy the amount of gang related violence that takes place in western BC (Surrey and surrounding areas) that is not reported in Canadian news...
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    @snowracer101, Thanks for the detailed response. It's good to hear from the enforcement side of it.

    People don't usually get an idea as to how complex this problem really is. And I am very aware of how Canada views illegal immigration. They certainly don't fuck around. Not sure what MSM is making them look soft but I totally agree with you.

    @JayS, Just calling it as I see it. We can stop going in circles since it's always the same story with you. I thought you were ignoring me?

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    To add to this; What's the general mood from border agents on reducing the amount of legal immigrants by 50%? Will that # have much of an effect on your future daily activities? (i.e. how many these legal immigrants might become a problem later?)
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    we going to talk about that shit in Virginia in here or in another thread or not at all?
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    we going to talk about that shit in Virginia in here or in another thread or not at all?
    Two groups of shit heads fighting each other? One from far left and one from far right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bing View Post
    we going to talk about that shit in Virginia in here or in another thread or not at all?

    Sure. Want to start?

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    yeah, it's altogether unfortunate.

    firstly, man those white dudes need better PR with the way they are being characterized in the media. And i wonder about what the impact will be on all these guys whose photos were taken and who can clearly be identified.

    Before they identified the driver i was quite interested to know who was going to be responsible. the fact that it was a young right-leaning white guy reinforces the media narrative which is not good for Trump or the right.

    also would prefer if it had of been a mustang rather than a challenger. this guy had zero sense of humor obviously.
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    also would prefer if it had of been a mustang rather than a challenger.
    Why? Challenger is more fitting.
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    referring only to this years mustang memes.
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    ? Mustang memes were last year.

    The Challenger has been used as an instrument of racism since the late 70's.
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